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    jalex1611 is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    I have spent hours on the internet in hopes of finding the right curriculum for my son. He will be in 2nd grade beginning fall 2007. I wanted a program that is online or on DVD, yet I have to be able to afford it. That is how I landed at time4learning's website.

    My concern with T4L is that it is "secular". That isn't necessarily a problem, but I am worried about things like evolution, holidays we don't celebrate, and the like being a problem in a secular curriculum. Has anyone else been through this? How are you doing with T4L?

    Julie

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    We're pagan and we just teach our faith separately from the core subjects - the same way we approach French, sign language, etc.

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    we teach 90% of our education separate from our religious education.

    There are some lessons where they inevitably are mixed together which is a great thing. Just the way that social studies and science and reading often combine in a lesson. In fact, unit studies are an expansion of this and we spend some great time on unit studies.

    I'm not a great fan of curriculum that uses every lesson as a way to repeat basic religious messages.

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    As Christians, I believe we should be careful and responsible in feeding the minds of the next generation. We know what is not right in God's sight. Witchcraft, sorcery, magic, and other new age and pagan practices should definitely be avoided.

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    With my i guess "method" I am writing my own right now well because we started over I guess you would say anyway I just preread everything before I teach it then if there is a part I can say something about our faith then i throw it in. Other then that we have a seperate Bible study time and prayers before we start the day. So even if it is secular teaching you can always reinforce it with scripture and morel statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalex1611
    My concern with T4L is that it is "secular". That isn't necessarily a problem, but I am worried about things like evolution, holidays we don't celebrate, and the like being a problem in a secular curriculum. Has anyone else been through this? How are you doing with T4L?

    Julie
    Julie,

    This is such an excellent question! I am sorry that I somehow missed it until now. I think every family is going to give you a different answer. As a believer I encourage you to seek out the Lord in prayer and ask HIM what He wants your homeschool to look like. In our home, our family, we believe that our faith is not separate from what we're learning. God IS history. (aka: His Story) We believe in a literal 6 day creation and disagree with the theory of evolution. So how does that line up with Time4Learning?

    I use Time4Learning for Math and Language arts and "some" language arts extensions. I use A.C.E. or Landmark Freedom Baptist Curriculum for history or science. When my children are young I "ONLY" teach them from a biblical worldview. Until they are older and able to discern. As they approach middle school I begin to share what other people believe, but continue to share why it may or may not line up with scripture. Finally when they get to highschool I teach worldview classes using wonderful curriculum by Josh McDowel and they learn what every main theory out there and then why it's debunked when lined up with scripture. I make the kids tell me what they believe and why they believe it.

    I LOVE that Time4Learning is so flexible anyone can use it no matter what their worldview! (smile) Take the parts that enhance your life and leave the parts that don't line up. My children made more gains in math when we switched to Time4learning in "2007" than all the years we used those big expensive programs everybody loves. I LOVE Time4Learning.

    For my husband and I, we believe that God gave us our children as a gift to be raised up in Him. Because I know that one day I have to stand before the Lord and be held accountable for what I taught my sons I take it very seriously. I would never consider giving them the "option" of believing anything apart from God. I want them to see that EVERYTHING revolves around the Lord of Glory! He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end! The truth is though, that eventually they have to take it and own it for themselves when they become adults.

    Here are our families verses:

    "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Matthew 6:19-21

    "And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever." 1 John 2:17


    When I am making decisions I always view my answers through these specific verses as they are the heart of what our family believes.
    Mary, Child of the King of Kings, Jesus Christ! Wife to best friend and Mama to her four boys 91, 96, 00, 02, Homeschooling since 1998! Come visit us on our blog! http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/MamaMary/

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    Hello! I have only been doing T4L for a short time, but so far, I have not seen anything on here that would contradict our beliefs in the Lord. I also sit with, or very near to, my children while they are working, so that if they read or see anything that is questionable, I can address it immediately. Luckily, when I pulled my children from PS in the fall of last year, we started working on a great unit study that centered around God. It required them to memorize complete chapters of Scripture and really think about God. It was also based on history, and we were studying about the Ancient cultures (Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc.) and the religious beliefs of those cultures, but it was always compared in light with the truth of God's Word and what we believe...I really think that it helped them to question the things that they see and compare them with the truth of God's Word.

    One thing that we have been critized for in homeschooling is that we are trying to "shelter" our children from the world instead of letting them be exposed and learn to live amongst people who don't believe as we do. I am sorry, but I do believe that as Christian parents, it is our duty and calling to "shelter" our children from this world until they are at an age to be able to discern wisely for themselves. Now that age can occur differently for each child. You just have to watch your children and know them. I find that each of my children respond differently to the Lord, and it is so neat to watch them develop. I have hopes that when my children are old enough to go "out into the world" they will be strong in the Lord, and strong in the knowledge of His Word. But more important, that they have taken the faith that I have taught them, and made it their own. This way they can stand against the effects of an ungodly world.

    Thanks for posting! I had the same concerns going from a very strong Christian curriculum to a secular based one...but I think that the benefits of T4L are too great to pass up, and I have only been on for a few weeks!!

    Good luck in your endeavor!!!
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    Hi jmom,

    I sympathize with your viewpoint-- there is certainly the desire to see our children go out into the world and succeed, but homeschooling actually prepares them for that better than a secular, public schooling environment does. As you say, as young adults strongly rooted in their Christian faith, they will be better prepared to "stand against the effects of an ungodly world." On the other hand, if they are immersed in ungodliness at a tender age, those influences are difficult to overcome in adulthood. As a product of the public schools, I speak from personal experience!

    Time4Learning is not perfect, but it provides solid academic instruction in most areas. The only objectionable thing I have found so far is a social studies activity requiring 2nd graders to write a "legal brief" defending or accusing the early American explorers and Founding Fathers of crimes against the Native Americans. Although Native Americans certainly did experience some mistreatment, particularly at the hands of Spanish explorers, I find it rather offensive that people like Christopher Columbus and George Washington would be lumped in with the conquistadors. The great figures of American history--whom we as Christians owe a great debt for helping to establish a society granting more religious and political liberties than any in history, not just to Christians but to people of all faiths-- deserve better than that.

    When I was a kid, even our secular, public school taught us to revere the accomplishments and sacrifices of early exploers and, particularly, of our forefathers (the pilgrims, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, etc.), the vast majority of whom were men of faith. Time4learning does not need to embrace the anti-American frenzy currently sweeping our educational system. Respecting the achievements of traditional American culture does not mean we can't and don't, at the same time, respect the accomplishments and contributions of other cultures (including Native American).

    Erica

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    I have heard this same argument. As I was sitting and listening to this father and mother tell me how I am sheltering my kids, how homeschoolers are "odd" or "weird", etc....I found it VERY hard not to comment back to them. They now have three grown children. One is living with her boyfriend, one is openly agnostic and wants nothing to do with the church, and the third is thankfully following the Lord.

    I am not saying we are immune to such things, but I have problems with them criticizing me when their own children are examples of how throwing them in the world could be !

    Dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by jmom View Post
    One thing that we have been critized for in homeschooling is that we are trying to "shelter" our children from the world instead of letting them be exposed and learn to live amongst people who don't believe as we do. I am sorry, but I do believe that as Christian parents, it is our duty and calling to "shelter" our children from this world until they are at an age to be able to discern wisely for themselves. Now that age can occur differently for each child. You just have to watch your children and know them. I find that each of my children respond differently to the Lord, and it is so neat to watch them develop. I have hopes that when my children are old enough to go "out into the world" they will be strong in the Lord, and strong in the knowledge of His Word. But more important, that they have taken the faith that I have taught them, and made it their own. This way they can stand against the effects of an ungodly world.

    Thanks for posting! I had the same concerns going from a very strong Christian curriculum to a secular based one...but I think that the benefits of T4L are too great to pass up, and I have only been on for a few weeks!!

    Good luck in your endeavor!!!

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