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    Has anybody taken the Spanish course yet? MY granddaughter is taking the course, she says that it's hard Because it doesn't translate the Spanish to English. Jos

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    Hi, jos!

    Time4Learning is powered by Rosetta Stone, which is probably the "Cadillac" of foreign language programs. The reason it works so well is because it uses an entirely different (and much more effective) method of teaching . . . but it can take awhile to get used to it if a student is use to the "old" way.

    When we learn our native language, no one translates for us. We just listen to people speaking it, notice what they are talking about, and our brains absorb the language. That's called "immersion". Time4Languages seeks to replicate that in its instruction, so the student learns to speak and understand the new language naturally, and isn't constantly translating from one language to another in their head.

    For example, the old "language lesson records" had people listening to a speaker who would say something like, "cat, el gato . . . cat, el gato . . . dog, el perro . . . dog, el perro . . . " Later, they would be given a worksheet that had words like "cat" and "dog" on it and they needed to write or choose the Spanish word to match.

    Time4Languages shows the student a picture and just says "el gato". That avoids training the student's brain to always associate a Spanish word with its English equivalent. The goal is for the student to simply to understand Spanish, the same way they understand English.

    If your granddaughter is having difficulty, I'll bet he or she is trying to translate in their head! When seeing the pictures of a cat and a dog, they are probably still thinking "cat" and "dog" before choosing the Spanish word, instead of looking at the Spanish word and selecting the matching picture without really thinking about it.

    Many Spanish teachers these days give all their instructions in Spanish (even on the first day of class), because language learning through immersion has proven to be so effective.

    Anyway, I'm a mom who was using Rosetta Stone for my kids (and paying LOTS for it) way before Time4Learning started offering it as Time4Languages. We love the program at our house. I hope your granddaughter does, too, once she has tried it for awhile.

    Mom of six . . . current students and homeschool graduates. Enjoying using Time4Learning since 2006!

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    I agree with Kelly that immersion language learning is far more effective! I hope your granddaughter was able to stick with it! While it does take some time to adjust, it has been far easier to retain than other methods I've used previously.

    Whatever language your child is studying, here are some more fun ways to help kids speak and think in a new language:

    3 Ways to Grow Your Child’s Foreign Language Skills


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    We're using "Rosetta Stone 3: Homeschool" Spanish (bought it before T4L added foreign language). I'm not sure if T4L uses the same, but I'm finding that my kids aren't retaining much of what they're learning (used all year). Does T4L's foreign language incorporate similar worksheets and quizzes to the ones that come with the Rosetta Stone 3/Homeschool version? Does T4L add anything extra???

    I'm just not satisfied with the Rosetta Stone CDs we have (due to lack of retention/comprehension) and wondering if T4L's version is better/more effective, or if it's the same thing I already have.

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    Time4Learning offers Rosetta Stone's foreign language courses as Time4Languages. They are the same courses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reb621 View Post
    We're using "Rosetta Stone 3: Homeschool" Spanish (bought it before T4L added foreign language). I'm not sure if T4L uses the same, but I'm finding that my kids aren't retaining much of what they're learning (used all year). Does T4L's foreign language incorporate similar worksheets and quizzes to the ones that come with the Rosetta Stone 3/Homeschool version? Does T4L add anything extra???

    I'm just not satisfied with the Rosetta Stone CDs we have (due to lack of retention/comprehension) and wondering if T4L's version is better/more effective, or if it's the same thing I already have.

    Thanks!
    Perfect example today. My kiddo was trying to complete one of the Spanish 1 worksheets I printed (that comes with the Rosetta Stone Homeschool version) and needed to "Llena los espacios en blanco con la forma correcta de los verbos SER or ESTAR" which means fill in blanks with correct (conjugation) of those 2 verbs, which mean "to be" (as in I AM, YOU ARE, etc.).

    I remember learning this in year TWO of Spanish. We drilled over and over how to conjugate present tense verbs that year. But Rosetta Stone just states them and apparently kids just pick it up and understand? (Mine do not.) So not only did mine not understand what the worksheet was asking her to do, she still can't explain to me what the differences are between SER and ESTAR, when each would be used, etc. And she doesn't know the conjugations. Now she might be able to recognize and translate these verbs if she saw them in a sentence, but wouldn't be able to create a sentence using the correct form of the verb.

    Hmm. So in my kid's case, immersion just doesn't seem to be working. I suppose if you use it when they are young and first developing language, it would probably be fine. Or if they have had some foreign language training already and understand how verb conjugation works.

    I will say that they have learned lots of vocab, though.

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    One great thing about homeschooling is that we can pick and choose what works for our own kids. Rosetta Stone worked great for mine, and many companies use it to help their employees who need to travel to non-English-speaking areas. Nothing will work for everyone, though.

    Members asked for foreign language, so Time4Learning went looking for "the best" program with which to partner. Rosetta Stone is world famous and has pretty much been the top choice for years. It's won loads of awards, so it was an obvious choice.

    Still, like I said, nothing will work for everyone. My family tried another program that some of my kids loved . . . La Clase Divertida. It's on DVD, and it comes with crafts and cooking projects to do along the way. So it covers culture as well as the language, and it's great for hands-on learners. They watch a short DVD lesson, singing and chanting along with the instructor. Then there is usually a workbook page to do. One lesson per chapter is where they watch a story about the history of the area being studied, one is a cooking lesson, and one is a craft (all supplies for the crafts are included with your course).

    Mom of six . . . current students and homeschool graduates. Enjoying using Time4Learning since 2006!

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    Thanks for the curricular tip, Kelly. Mine might do better with that sort of program with lots of explanation and repetition. (I am very glad that T4L now offers a foreign language option, though.)

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